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IowaMarkPosted 12/12/ 18:48 (#)
Subject: Hose or cable protector material sleeve
NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Where do I get this type of protective &#;sleeve&#; material to put around like hydraulic hoses and etc.? I called my Deere dealer and he knew what I was talking about but didn&#;t know what the name of it&#;s called or where to get it. The hose, cable or whatever you want to protect just goes inside of it.(DA-DDA2-4E37-B64A-7BC1EB2.jpeg)
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Hendricks MN
Depends on what kind you want.Edited by Tim swMN 12/12/ 18:54
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Nylon protective sleeve is exactly what I&#;m talking about.Posted 12/12/ 19:27 (# - in reply to #)
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Northern Indiana
I use old firehose.Posted 12/12/ 19:32 (# - in reply to #)
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Galena IL
Edited by Angus 12/12/ 19:33
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E.Central MN
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Sw mn
Posted 12/12/ 21:54 (# - in reply to #)
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Previous threads with links.
It's not cheap per foot but seems to do a good job.
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=
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twraskaPosted 12/12/ 21:56 (# - in reply to #)
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Wallis, TX
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C IL
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Black Hawk County, IA
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Yes, if you think about it I&#;d appreciate a picture of what you&#;re talking about , thanks. flanders20Posted 12/13/ 05:59 (# - in reply to #)
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Please post pics of this setup !
braidyPosted 12/13/ 07:38 (# - in reply to #)
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NW Minnesota
This is what most of the OEM's are using, made right here in MN. The exact same as Central Hydraulics sells and A&I products. It is not cheap and unless you buy from a reseller you have to buy a roll from a distributor. Hartfiel Automation in MN is a distributor.
Velcro wrap
http://products.gosuburban.com/viewitems/sidewinder-sleeve/-ballistic-nylon-standard-abrasion-protection
Sleeve
http://products.gosuburban.com/viewitems/protective-coverings/diamondback-sleeve
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Posted 12/13/ 21:51 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: Hose or cable protector maker pics
NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Thanks for posting these pictures for me it really gives me a better idea of how you made this. What size pipe did you use for the hose to go through? Plus what size of plastic piping have you used this on? I&#;m going to try make one of these someday, it looks like a simple but very effective way so make this spiral piping.Posted 12/13/ 22:58 (# - in reply to #)
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Elvaston, IL
. Von WC OhioPosted 12/14/ 05:39 (# - in reply to #)
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Very neat idea thanks for sharing it with us.
Could you post a picture of the "cutter" bolt removed so we can better see the angle profile ground on the end of it.
Also your spirals look very even and uniform how do you control the rate at which it cuts through the pipe ? does it kind of advance at it's own natural rate or is there some other trick to getting it to advance the same distance with each revolution ?
Is it best to clamp one end of the pipe in a vice or just hold the poly pipe in one hand and advance the cutter with the other ?
Looks like a wonderful alternative to the high dollar hose wraps.
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Wondering about setting up a cutter in a powered pipe threader. Could make a whole roll of wrap in real short order.
Money saving tips like this are what Ag Talk is all about !
IowaMarkPosted 12/14/ 06:21 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: Hose or cable protector maker pics
NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Good questions Von, I was wondering about the even spirals and feeding also. I like your suggestion on the power fed pipe feeding. Just thinking out loud here since I don&#;t have such a machine I was wondering if one could hook up to a 1/2&#; drill somehow to feed or pull the pipe? Might have to think on this for awhile. ShortonePosted 12/14/ 06:28 (# - in reply to #)
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Sw mn
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NW Minnesota
Shortone... Your dealer was trying to "hose you" polyethylene wrap in the size you need is 40- 50 cents per foot from MSC. But I still like your cutting tool!
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West Central Iowa
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Thank you for sharing this link !
milkman1Posted 10/28/ 17:20 (# - in reply to #)
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Central Illinois
What is a spiral cable? That&#;s a common question that refers to wrap that&#;s applied to cable and wrapped in a spiral pattern. It has several purposes and is used across multiple industries. For instance, it&#;s a common automotive wire wrap. This guide is designed to help you understand this critical cable management component. We&#;ll cover:
You can learn more about in Braided cable sleeving: a quick guide.
Spiral cable wrap is known by different names: spiral wrap tubing, cable spiral wrap, spiral wrap for wires and wire spiral wrap. It&#;s a versatile and practical cable management solution, used to bundle cables and keep them organized and protected against abrasions. Braided cable sleeving , for example, does this too, but if you need easy access to your cables for any maintenance or repairs, then it&#;s spiral cable wrap that you want.
When we&#;re talking about cable management, we&#;re talking about spiral cable wrap, which comes in black or natural, but you can also find it in other colors. Spiral cable wrap sizes vary while materials are typically nylon or polyethylene. Example:
It&#;s worth mentioning that the concept of spiral wrap isn&#;t just for cables. Hydraulic spiral wrap protects most types of hydraulic, pneumatic and industrial hose assemblies. If it moves, spiral wrap is the perfect protection. There&#;s even spiral wrap for heavy-duty uses , required by the mining industry to protect hoses underground.
Cable wrap is also cut in a spiral design so that you can route cables at any point from the bundle to a different direction. How to use spiral cable wrap is easy. You can apply spiral wrap to the re-routed bundle that you create too. Its design and construction also enable your cables to flex and even move around, making them ideal for robotic applications.
Standard Spiral Cable Wrap Lightweight wrap protects both cable and hose without restricting flexibility. Crush resistant, flexible, and easy to install. Available in heat-stabilized nylon or polyethylene. Sizes range from as small as 0.062 x 0.500 inches (roughly 1/16 x ½ inches) up to 1 x 7 inches.
You&#;ll find it helpful to learn about other cable management wraps in our guide, The difference between cable conduit, wrap, sleeves and tubing.
Spiral wraps have an open design, which means they might not fully enclose a wire harness.
Slit Harness Wrap This is not a type of spiral cable wrap, but it&#;s similar in that it&#;s another type of plastic wire wrap. A slit harness wrap is used to bind and protect cable looms, also known as wire harnesses. A wire harness is a structured grouping or bundle of electrical wires or cables bound together and usually enclosed in a protective sheath. The purpose of creating a wire harness is to organize and protect the wires, which helps in efficiently transmitting electrical signals or power within a system.
Spiral wrap for cables increases your bundle&#;s lifespan while minimizing the amount of maintenance and repairs needed for wires, cables, and also hoses. That is, if you choose the appropriate material. The plastic you decide on should depend on your application and its environment.
Nylon is lightweight yet provides high abrasion resistance. Look for a heat-stabilized option, which minimizes the loss of physical properties as operating temperatures increase. We are talking about electrical cable spiral wrap, and electrical applications operate in heat, so take the safe option.
Nylon does hold up over a wide temperature range, but if you can widen that range with a heat stabilizer, do it. Nylon is self-extinguishing, and you should make sure your choice has a UL 94 flammability rating, such as Essentra&#;s nylon spiral cable wrap.
It&#;s also perfect as automotive wiring protection, specifically for use under the hood in engines. Industrial operations also turn to nylon to protect hydraulic hoses, while nylon is also good for NEMA electrical enclosures.
Low cost, polyethylene wrap is the ideal choice if a temperature rating is not needed. It&#;s incredibly cost effective, and in the color black, it resists UV rays, so you can use it outdoors.
Direct sunlight will not degrade the material, which is why it&#;s popular with the construction industry. It&#;s also used for industrial generator parts and in a typical outdoor electrical enclosure and cable junction box. Otherwise, polyethylene is a general all-purpose material, suitable for standard electrical installations, panel building and the electronics industry.
Choosing the appropriate spiral cable wrap is essential to ensure effective cable management and protection:
1. Cable Size and Bundle Diameter: Determine the size and diameter of the cables or wire bundles you need to manage. Choose a spiral cable wrap with a diameter that comfortably accommodates the size of your cables, allowing for easy installation and future adjustments.
2. Material and Durability: Consider the environmental conditions in which the cables will be used. For harsh or outdoor environments, opt for spiral cable wraps made from durable materials like polyethylene or nylon that offer excellent resistance to abrasion, chemicals, and UV radiation. See above to determine which is right for you.
3. Length and Quantity: Consider the length of spiral cable wrap required for your project, and purchase in the appropriate quantity to ensure sufficient coverage for all cables.
Spiral cable wrap is incredibly versatile. It offers an efficient and cost-effective solution to improve cable organization, protection, and system reliability.
How to use spiral cable wrap
Industry
Application
Why It&#;s Used
Electronics & IT Equipment
Computers, servers, networking equipment
Prevent tangling & improve airflow for better cooling
Automotive & Transportation
Electrical &, entertainment systems, communication lines
Organize and protect wiring from sharp edges & other components
Industrial Machinery
Automated systems, control systems
Organize and protect wiring from abrasion & chemicals
Medical Devices
Robotic surgery systems, medical imaging equipment
Enable flexibility & ease of movement in devices, organize cables & maintain a clean environment
Renewable Energy
Solar power installations, wind farms
Protect and organize cables involved in power generation and distribution
Your next question is probably how should a spiral wrap be applied? It&#;s ridiculously easy. No tools are required. Follow these steps for an easy, hassle-free installation:
1. Prepare the Cables. Before wrapping, ensure the cables are clean and free from debris or dirt. Straighten out any knots or tangles in the cables to make the wrapping process easier.
2. Determine the outside diameter of your cable bundle so that you can choose the closest spiral cable wrap size. Remember, spiral wrap sizes come in a wide range.
3. Choose spiral wrap slightly smaller than your bundle, or it will slip. You want to avoid over-tightening. The cable wrap should be snug but not too tight. Leave some room for movement to prevent strain on the cables.
4. Cut the length of spiral wrap that you&#;ll need.
KNOW: How you position the wrap around your cables will dictate your bundle&#;s flexibility.
&#; If you increase the space between the spirals, you can bend cables more sharply.
&#; On the flip side, the closer together you space the spirals, then the less flexibility you&#;ll have, but the trade-off is that you&#;ll get greater abrasion resistance.
5. Begin spiral wrapping the cables from one end and work your way along the length of the bundle. Cable wrapping should be done in a spiral pattern to maintain
flexibility and allow for easy expansion or contraction of the wrap as needed.
6. If you want to route any cables outside of the bundle, do so now. If later, you want
to re-route any cables, simply unwrap the spiral cable wire wrap just enough to
remove those cables. You can also reuse it for other applications.
7. Trim excess length at the ends to keep the installation tidy. Be careful not to cut too
close to the cable bundle.
Finally, it&#;s a good idea as part of your spiral cable management to attach labels or use color-coded tags to identify individual cables or cable groups. Proper labeling will make maintenance and troubleshooting more straightforward. Advise users to periodically check the wrapped cables for signs of wear, damage, or loose connections. They should replace damaged cable wraps or rewrap sections if needed.
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