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m.a.tarafdar
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Aug 15,Tags
In summary, the conversation discusses the use of interstage coolers for a Synthesis gas compressor. The coolers are made of carbon steel, but due to corrosion in the tube to tubesheet joint, the speaker wants to use stainless steel instead. However, the vendor has expressed concern about the possibility of crevice corrosion. The speaker mentions that stainless steel is not a guarantee against corrosion and that the specific composition of the stainless steel and the fluids it will be exposed to must be considered. The quality and method of welding also play a role in corrosion. The speaker advises conducting a full check of alloy compatibility before making a decision.
m.a.tarafdar
We have 3 interstage coolers for a Synthesis gas compressor.Synthesis gas is mostly H2 & N2 with small Ar & CH4.Tube side fluid is water & shell side fluid is Syn.gas.The heat exchangers are made of carbon steel.Now due to corrosion in tube to tubesheet joint we like to use SS for tubes.But our vendor dont' agree & mentioned that there will be a chance of crevice corrosion.Is there any real reason for vendor's concern?
Enthalpy
You don't plan to weld stainless on carbon steel, do you? This wouldn't work.
Generally, I expect stainless to perform better than carbon steel, BUT stainless isn't a general guarantee! Corrosion depends on the chemicals and the temperature, for instance water composition changes everything. The material and quality of the welds, even their heat history, are important. Hundreds of different stainless compositions are used, with very different corrosion properties.
For instance, stainless scissors in sea water would last few weeks. Or weld joints in normal 10-8 stainless would corrode in sweet water, but low-carbon variants improve it.
So you can't avoid the full check of alloy compatibility with your fluids and your welding method.
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Some of the most commonly used materials for heat exchanger tubes are stainless steel, copper, titanium, and nickel alloys. Each material has its own unique properties and is chosen based on the specific requirements of the heat exchanger.
The choice of material for heat exchanger tubes depends on factors such as operating temperature, pressure, corrosive environment, and cost. It is important to consult with a materials expert to determine the best material for your specific application.
Stainless steel is a popular choice for heat exchanger tubes due to its high strength, corrosion resistance, and thermal conductivity. It is also relatively easy to fabricate and has a long lifespan, making it a cost-effective option in the long run.
Yes, it is possible to have heat exchanger tubes made from multiple materials. This is known as a bimetallic or multilayered tube and is often used in applications where one material may provide better corrosion resistance or thermal conductivity than the other.
To ensure the longevity of heat exchanger tubes, it is important to consider factors such as material selection, proper design, and regular maintenance. Properly chosen and maintained tubes can last for many years, reducing the need for frequent replacements.
Many HVAC appliances have a component that is known as a &#;heat exchanger.&#; They come in many forms, but it is the metal that composes your heat exchanger that often makes one of the biggest impacts.
What this piece of metal does is transfer heat from one fluid (e.g., hot water in your water heater) to another (e.g., domestic water running to your tap). There is a good amount of choice in the metal you can use for that heat exchanger, ranging from bronze and titanium to brass and carbon steel.
However, copper and stainless steel heat exchangers are the most commonly used because they are less expensive and still highly effective. One of the most common questions we are asked by our customers is some variation of: which is better a copper or stainless steel hot water cylinder, water heater, boiler, or other HVAC appliance?
The main concerns of a homeowner when choosing between copper and stainless steel should be thermal conductivity, durability, and price.
In this guide, we look at the pros and cons of copper and stainless steel heat exchangers.
The thermal conductivity of a heat exchanger determines how quickly it transfers the heat from the heating source to the distribution fluid. In this regard, a heat exchanger with copper is much faster at transferring heat than stainless steel.
Here are the basic thermal conductivity levels, measured in watts per meter pre-Kelvin, of the two different metals[1]:
On average, the thermal conductivity of copper is 20 times that of stainless steel. In practical terms, this means that copper can transfer heat 20 times faster. So, if you need quick heating, copper will work to your advantage.
Why would you need to heat something quickly? That&#;s an important question to ask if you are choosing between, say, a copper vs. stainless steel tankless water heater.
For example, if you own a swimming pool and plan on going swimming on an autumn day, a water heater with a copper heat exchanger can get your pool ready for you much faster. With a stainless steel heat exchanger, you could find yourself waiting up to 72 hours before your pool is heated to 10 degrees Celsius.
Even if you don&#;t need to heat things quickly, the higher thermal conductivity offered by copper also leads to higher efficiency. As a result, using a heat exchanger with copper will lead to lower energy costs. After all, a heater or boiler that has to run for longer to heat your home, pool, or tap water is going to cost you more.
Durability is a big concern for heat exchangers when it comes to appliances like a boiler. This is because condensing boilers (the most popular type right now), release a corrosive condensate that can eat away at the metal in the heat exchanger.
A heat exchanger that cannot stand up to the condensate will quickly corrode, requiring a time-consuming and costly replacement. As a result, you will likely want to choose a heat exchanger that can resist corrosion over the long term.
In this case, the clear winner is stainless steel. Unlike standard steel, stainless steel has a property known as &#;passivation.&#; This refers to its ability to form a layer of oxide on itself in response to contacting air.[2]
This layer of oxide protects stainless steel from corrosion and rust, allowing for a longer lifespan than regular steel. It is essentially perfect to use in any heat exchanger that will be in contact with corrosive elements.
On the other hand, copper is much more vulnerable to corrosion. The condensate turns copper atoms into copper ions, effectively dissolving the metal over time. This is a big problem for two reasons. First, because of the lower lifespan; then, because a corroded copper heat exchanger loses efficiency.
Considering that higher efficiency and thermal conductivity was the advantage for copper, having it reduced balances out the other way.
Copper tends to be cheaper than stainless steel when purchased in the same quantity, and that holds true when used in heat exchangers. While that may tempt you into getting copper for your heat exchanger, remember that it is much less durable. You will have to buy more copper replacements to maintain its efficiency levels. As a result, copper can actually end up being more expensive in the long term.
Generally, you will find that heat exchanger manufacturers will offer copper as the default choice because they&#;re cheaper. These companies are aware of the trade-off between the cost and the lifespan, where the cost is a &#;pay now or pay later&#; issue. You either pay more upfront for a stainless steel heat exchanger that will last longer or pay later to replace the copper one sooner.
The ultimate choice comes down to whether you are thinking long-term or short-term. If you plan on adding value to your home by installing high-quality HVAC equipment, go with the long-term option. (e.g., gas boilers and stainless steel heat exchangers). The long-term option will save you money and reduce the need for HVAC services and replacements.
So it should be obvious that stainless steel, the more costly of the two metals, is better for long-term thinkers. However, should you really need a heat exchanger with the highest conductivity to quickly heat large bodies of water (e.g., a pool) or larger homes, then copper might be the better choice.
Of course, stainless steel can do everything copper can, just at a slower pace and slightly higher price.
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